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02/28/2013 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                       February 28, 2013                                                                                        
                           3:03 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pete Higgins, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
Representative Lora Reinbold                                                                                                    
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA HEALTH CARE COMMISSION                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH ERICKSON, Executive Director                                                                                            
Alaska Health Care Commission                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint titled "Alaska                                                                    
Health Care Commission."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
WARD HURLBURT, M.D., Chair                                                                                                      
Alaska Health Care Commission                                                                                                   
Chief Medical Officer/Director                                                                                                  
Division of Public Health                                                                                                       
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and answered questions during the                                                              
presentation by the Alaska Health Care Commission.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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3:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PETE  HIGGINS called the  House Health and  Social Services                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:03   p.m.                                                               
Representatives Higgins,  Nageak, Keller,  Tarr, and  Seaton were                                                               
present at  the call to  order.  Representative  Reinbold arrived                                                               
as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Alaska Health Care Commission                                                                                  
          Presentation: Alaska Health Care Commission                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:04:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HIGGINS announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
a presentation by the Alaska Health Care Commission.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:05:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH   ERICKSON,  Executive   Director,  Alaska   Health  Care                                                               
Commission,   stated  that   the   commission   had  been   first                                                               
established by  a governor's  administrative order  from Governor                                                               
Palin, and then in statute in  2010.  She stated that its purpose                                                               
was  to   provide  recommendations   to  the  governor   and  the                                                               
legislature   on   issues   related   to   cost,   quality,   and                                                               
affordability  of  health  care   in  Alaska,  and  to  recommend                                                               
strategies  related to  improvement  of health  status, slide  2,                                                               
"Statutory Authority."   She noted  that the  commission provided                                                               
an  annual report  each  year, in  January.   She  said that  the                                                               
voting  members were  appointed by  the Governor  for three  year                                                               
terms, slide  3, "Membership."   She pointed out that  there were                                                               
ex-officio  members from  the house,  the governor's  office, and                                                               
the senate.  She talked  about slide 4, "Planning Process," which                                                               
identified the  vision for the  future of health care  in Alaska,                                                               
and the strategies to move toward the vision.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  moved on to  slide 5, "Commission's  Vision," which                                                               
read:   "By 2025 Alaskans  will be  the healthiest people  in the                                                               
nation and  have access  to the  highest quality  most affordable                                                               
health care."   She affirmed that this was the  vision to aspire.                                                               
She  identified life  expectancy, percentage  of population  with                                                               
access to  primary care, and  per capita health care  spending as                                                               
the measures for success.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:08:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  discussed slide 6, "Commission  Studies of Alaska's                                                               
Current Health  Care System," which  listed the studies  to date.                                                               
She said that  concerns for both cost and  affordability for care                                                               
were big  challenges to access  to health  care.  She  noted that                                                               
the commission was working to  better understand what was driving                                                               
the increases in health care costs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:09:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON shared that the  commission had focused on value and                                                               
improvement to  the system by  increasing quality in  health care                                                               
services,   and  improving   efficiency   and  effectiveness   of                                                               
services,  slide  7, "Value  in  Alaska's  Health System."    She                                                               
stated  that although  nationally Alaska  had the  second highest                                                               
per capita  spending for health insurance,  behind Massachusetts,                                                               
Massachusetts  had  the  highest percentage  of  population  with                                                               
insurance coverage, whereas Alaska  was 39th.  Regarding quality,                                                               
Alaska was 38th  nationally, and for health  outcomes, the health                                                               
of the population, Alaska was 34th nationally.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HIGGINS asked about the percentage of uninsured.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON  explained  that the  census  bureau  conducted  an                                                               
annual survey that  did not consider beneficiaries  of the Indian                                                               
Health Service  (IHS) as having  insurance coverage.  If  the IHS                                                               
beneficiaries were included, then 14  percent of Alaskans did not                                                               
have  coverage;  however, if  they  were  not included,  then  18                                                               
percent of Alaskans were considered not to have coverage.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WARD HURLBURT, M.D., Chair, Alaska  Health Care Commission, Chief                                                               
Medical Officer/Director,  Division of  Public Health,  Office of                                                               
the  Commissioner,  Department  of Health  and  Social  Services,                                                               
stated that  there would not be  a health care commission  if not                                                               
for the  high cost issues,  and many  believed that this  was the                                                               
dominant economic  issue for the  nation.  He  directed attention                                                               
to  slide 8,  "International  Comparison of  Spending on  Health,                                                               
1980-2009,"  and said  that the  average per  capita spending  on                                                               
health  care was  over  $9,000, and  that  total expenditures  on                                                               
health care was  about 17 percent of the  gross domestic product.                                                               
He pointed out  that, although the health care  industry had been                                                               
adding  jobs  during  the  recent recession,  a  Rand  Study  had                                                               
connected this increase  for each health care job with  a loss of                                                               
0.85 jobs in manufacturing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:14:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT  moved on to  slide 9, "International  Comparison of                                                               
Health Status:  Life Expectancy at  Birth, 2010,"  which depicted                                                               
that  the U.S.  had a  lower life  expectancy at  birth than  the                                                               
international  average.   He spoke  about slide  10, "Comparative                                                               
Health  Outcomes," and  noted that  infant  mortality rates  were                                                               
higher  and  average life  expectancy  was  lower in  the  United                                                               
States  than  many other  industrialized  countries.   He  shared                                                               
slide  11,  "Affordability-U.S.  Cost vs.  Inflation,  Earnings,"                                                               
which showed that  overall inflation since 1999 had  only been 38                                                               
percent, while  health insurance  premiums had risen  172 percent                                                               
and  workers'  contributions  to  these premiums  had  risen  180                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:15:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT  read from slide 10,  "Affordability- U.S. Families:                                                               
If health insurance premiums and  national wages continue to grow                                                               
at  recent  rates and  the  U.S.  health  system makes  no  major                                                               
structural  changes,   the  average  cost  of   a  family  health                                                               
insurance premium will equal 50%  of household income by the year                                                               
2021 and surpass  the average household income by  the year 2033.                                                               
If out  of pocket costs are  added, the 50% threshold  is crossed                                                               
in 2018 and exceeds household income by 2030."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:16:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT  presented  slide  13,  "Cost  of  Health  Care  in                                                               
Alaska," which was currently almost  $8 billion annually, and was                                                               
projected to  be $14 billion  by 2020.   Commenting on  slide 14,                                                               
"Affordability  -  Alaskan  Families &  Employers,"  he  declared                                                               
that, since  1982, housing  costs had  increased 75  percent, the                                                               
cost of  living had increased  195 percent, energy  had increased                                                               
260  percent, and  medical care  had increased  419 percent.   He                                                               
observed  that large  and small  Alaska  employers were  dropping                                                               
provisions of health  insurance, slide 15, "Affordability-Alaskan                                                               
Employers."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:17:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT furnished  slide  16,  "Sample comparisons  between                                                               
States,"   which  compared   commercial  insurance   payments  to                                                               
physician services  for a sample  of codes in Alaska  and similar                                                               
northwest  states.   The  costs  reflected  that Alaska  had  the                                                               
highest cost  for each of the  procedures.  He moved  on to slide                                                               
17,  "Sample comparisons  between States:"  which compared  other                                                               
services, in which Alaska was again the most expensive.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:19:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT indicated  slides  18 and  19, "Sample  comparisons                                                               
within Alaska:  by Payer," which listed  payments through various                                                               
payers, indicating  that although  Medicaid was the  lowest payer                                                               
in  most  states, Medicare  was  billed  at  the lowest  rate  in                                                               
Alaska, and Workman's Comp was billed at the highest rate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:20:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON  offered  slide  21, "5%  of  the  U.S.  population                                                               
required 50% of  health care spending in 2009,"  and shared that,                                                               
nationally,  a  small  proportion  of  the  population  used  the                                                               
majority of  health care service.   She added that 50  percent of                                                               
the population was responsible for  only 3 percent of health care                                                               
spending.    She  stated  that this  had  not  been  specifically                                                               
investigated for  spending in Alaska.   She pointed out  that the                                                               
Department  of  Administration  had  stated that  70  percent  of                                                               
Alaska  Care  plan members  were  responsible  for 6  percent  of                                                               
spending,  whereas 5  percent of  the population  was responsible                                                               
for  59 percent  of  the total  spending.   She  noted that  this                                                               
information was  important when  developing policies  for keeping                                                               
people healthy,  slide 22, "Focus on  Health & Value."   She said                                                               
this  would also  lead to  high quality,  effective care  for the                                                               
mild to moderate conditions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:22:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  if  the  use by  5  percent of  the                                                               
population was for an annual or lifetime basis.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  replied that this percentage  reflected an analysis                                                               
for health care spending in a given year.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  to clarify  that in  any one  year,                                                               
money was  spent on those  who were sick; however,  the statistic                                                               
lead to  the impression that  there was  one group of  people who                                                               
were very  expensive, when  in fact,  it could  be anyone  in any                                                               
given year.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:24:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT  agreed that  this  was  an important  observation;                                                               
however,  he offered  his belief  from dealing  with populations,                                                               
that there was a relatively  small segment of the population that                                                               
had repeated costs.  He opined  that half of the population could                                                               
be ignored  as they were users  of minimal resources, but  that a                                                               
smaller  segment  of  the population  did  have  ongoing  medical                                                               
interventions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:25:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Chair Higgins passed the gavel to Vice Chair Keller]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:26:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  expressed his  desire for  the information                                                               
to be  presented with  a separation for  those who  had continual                                                               
issues from those who simply had an annual, not ongoing, issue.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT expressed his agreement.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:27:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  continued with slide  23, "Sources of  $750 Billion                                                               
Annual Waste  in U.S. Health  Care System," which  identified the                                                               
opportunities  for  efficiency.   She  said  that 30  percent  of                                                               
health  care spending  was waste,  about  $750 billion  annually.                                                               
She  identified  these  waste   areas  as  unnecessary  services,                                                               
inefficient  care  delivery,   excess  administrative  cost,  and                                                               
inflated prices.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:28:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON  said  that  the  commission  had  identified  some                                                               
recommendations, slide  24, "Recommended Strategies,"  which were                                                               
listed in eight areas.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD, referring back  to slide 23, asked about                                                               
the cost of waste in Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON said  that  it was  not known  if  that applied  in                                                               
Alaska, but if applied at the  same percentage, it would be about                                                               
$2.5 billion.   She returned attention to slide 24,  and said the                                                               
commission wanted  to ensure use  of the best  available evidence                                                               
for making  clinical decisions, to increase  the transparency for                                                               
price and  quality, to  review the strategy  to pay  for outcomes                                                               
rather  than  for  services,  to   engage  employers  to  improve                                                               
employee  wellness plans,  to enhance  quality and  efficiency of                                                               
care early in  the care process, and to increase  the dignity and                                                               
quality of care  for terminally ill patients.  She  stated that a                                                               
focus  on  prevention  and  the cost  cutting  systems  was  also                                                               
important.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:30:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD   asked  what  the  specific   focus  on                                                               
prevention was.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON replied that she would address this.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT  addressed slide  25,  "Ensure  the best  available                                                               
evidence is used  for making decisions" and stated  that the cost                                                               
of health  care was about  $8 billion in private  sector payroll.                                                               
He reported that the State of  Alaska paid about $2.3 billion for                                                               
Medicaid and state  employee health insurance.   He declared that                                                               
about 30 percent  of provided health care was not  necessary.  He                                                               
offered an  anecdote comparing what  was medically  available now                                                               
and 40  years ago.   He pointed out  that new equipment  was used                                                               
routinely,  even though  often not  necessary.   He declared  the                                                               
necessity to  apply evidence to make  medical coverage decisions.                                                               
He opined  that, as  the physician was  now an  educator, primary                                                               
care  physicians needed  to discuss  the risks  and the  benefits                                                               
with the patient, before a collaborative decision was made.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:37:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON declared that the  next core strategy would increase                                                               
consumer and patient  engagement in making their  own health care                                                               
decisions if there  was more access to information  for price and                                                               
quality  for  services, slide  26,  "Increase  price and  quality                                                               
transparency."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked if  it made  a difference  to supply                                                               
price information  as, given  the current  health care  system in                                                               
Alaska, there was not a choice.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON affirmed  that an upfront understanding  of the out-                                                               
of-pocket expenses  was necessary.   She  shared an  anecdote for                                                               
having  a  procedure  without  understanding   the  cost  or  the                                                               
necessity prior to the procedure.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:42:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON,  remarking  that   the  majority  of  the                                                               
population  in Alaska  had  insurance  with preferred  providers,                                                               
asked if there is really any choice for the consumer.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT, in  response,  stated  that a  goal  was for  more                                                               
transparency of  pricing.   He noted  that, although  health care                                                               
insurance premiums  were going up,  the out of pocket  costs were                                                               
increasing  even  more.   He  stated  that employers  were  often                                                               
shifting costs to keep their expenses down.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:44 p.m. to 3:54 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:54:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Representative Reinbold brought the committee back to order]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON,  commenting on  the suggestion  that costs                                                               
could  better  be  controlled  if   they  were  provided  to  the                                                               
consumers,  pointed  out  that  it was  more  expensive  for  the                                                               
consumer  to access  facilities  outside  the preferred  provider                                                               
networks.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT  replied that  there could be  a variety  of prices,                                                               
even within a  network.  The insurance company could  get a lower                                                               
rate by contracting with a provider,  which reduced the cost.  He                                                               
offered  his belief  that the  quality of  the provider  could be                                                               
assured by  a large  insurance company.   He offered  an anecdote                                                               
about  the large  selection of  providers within  a group  health                                                               
program, which helped to assure quality while controlling costs.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  replied that  he had  no objection  to the                                                               
preferred  provider  networks,  but  he  questioned  how  insured                                                               
consumers could choose by price within this type of network.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  HURLBURT pointed  out that  even prices  within a  preferred                                                               
provider network would  not be totally uniform.   He acknowledged                                                               
that individuals  could go  out of the  network for  service, but                                                               
would have to pay a larger deductible and co-pay.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  moved on to  slide 27,  "Pay for Value,"  and spoke                                                               
about the redesign of payment  structures to incentivize quality,                                                               
efficiency,  and  effectiveness.     She  suggested  combining  a                                                               
variety of  health plans in  order to better  leverage purchasing                                                               
power.   She endorsed  retention of the  fee for  service system,                                                               
and  then the  addition of  payment enhancements  to move  toward                                                               
increased quality and efficiency.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON indicated  slide 28,  "Engage employers  to improve                                                               
health  plans  and  employee  wellness."    She  recommended  the                                                               
importance  of price  and quality  transparency.   She identified                                                               
the   essential  elements   of  a   successful  employee   health                                                               
management program:   support for healthy life  styles, and price                                                               
sensitivity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
[Representative Reinbold returned the gavel to Chair Higgins]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  continued to discuss  the elements of  a successful                                                               
program:   proactive  primary care,  support for  payment reform,                                                               
and price  and quality  transparency.   She declared  support for                                                               
employers  in  Alaska  with price  sensitivity,  and  noted  that                                                               
employee  wellness and  health  plan  improvement were  important                                                               
aspects for  the health  programs.  She  emphasized the  need for                                                               
primary care to be easily  available, in order to improve quality                                                               
and  cost.   She continued  with slide  29, "Enhance  quality and                                                               
efficiency of  care on the front  end," and declared the  need to                                                               
recognize the  value of  primary care.   She  said that  the many                                                               
countries which had lower health  care spending and higher health                                                               
outcomes  had a  greater investment  in primary  health care  and                                                               
more of  an emphasis  on generalists,  as opposed  to specialists                                                               
and specialty  care, which drives up  the health care cost.   She                                                               
stated that it was necessary  to promote the relationship between                                                               
patients and clinicians.   She recommended that  it was necessary                                                               
to  support a  high  quality,  comprehensive, coordinated  trauma                                                               
care system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:09:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON provided another solution  for improvement in health                                                               
care,  slide  30,  "Increase  dignity and  quality  of  care  for                                                               
seriously and terminally  ill patients."  She  said that patients                                                               
had a  much greater chance  of having their decisions  honored if                                                               
they engaged in  the early planning for end of  life issues.  She                                                               
indicated  there was  a  need to  improve  clinician training  in                                                               
palliative care and  pain management.  She  discussed the Comfort                                                               
One program,  which had a  mechanism for terminally  ill patients                                                               
to document their  end of life wishes for first  responders.  She                                                               
spoke about a similar program  called POLST (Physician Orders for                                                               
Life  Sustaining Treatment)  which was  a standardized  mechanism                                                               
for  clinicians  and  patients   to  share  decision  making  for                                                               
treatment, and  to document those  wishes.  She  recommended that                                                               
advance directives  be made more easily  accessible and available                                                               
to  clinicians through  an electronic  registry.   She offered  a                                                               
suggestion  for  the   state  to  pilot  a   project  for  making                                                               
palliative care more accessible  to underserved populations.  She                                                               
mentioned the possibility for a re-design of payment structures.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  if the  commission  supported  the                                                               
proposed  HB  44  regarding the  Advance  Health  Care  Directive                                                               
Registry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON replied that the  commission did not take a position                                                               
on  legislation, either  federal  or state,  although they  would                                                               
often study issues and put out recommendations related to them.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  if  the  commission had  identified                                                               
areas that needed to be improved in proposed HB 44.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:13:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HIGGINS asked if the commission would respond in writing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON offered to respond.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:14:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON   directed  attention   to  slide  31,   "Focus  on                                                               
Prevention"  and  reported  that  the  recommendations  from  the                                                               
commission  included  population  based prevention  programs  for                                                               
obesity, to fund  and support an increase  to immunization rates,                                                               
to integrate behavioral health and  primary care services, and to                                                               
support  screening for  a history  of  adverse childhood  events,                                                               
substance abuse, and depression.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:15:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  if  there was  more  data  on  the                                                               
history  of  adverse  childhood  experiences  (ACE),  other  than                                                               
general knowledge, which lead to the support for screening.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT  replied that he  was not  aware of the  ACE studies                                                               
until  recently.    He  offered   his  belief  that  the  studies                                                               
originated in  San Diego, although  it was  more of an  issue for                                                               
behavioral health than for public health.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:16:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  expressed his  concern that  an assessment                                                               
for the quality of data was assumed, and not documented.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. HURLBURT offered  for Melissa Stone, Director  of Division of                                                               
Behavioral Health, to present a written response.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:18:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON  reviewed slide  32,  "Build  the foundation  of  a                                                               
sustainable health  care system," declaring that  this foundation                                                               
was necessary for a strong  health information infrastructure and                                                               
a   sustainable   health   workforce.      She   encouraged   the                                                               
participation  in  telemedicine to  increase  access  to care,  a                                                               
hospital discharge data base, and  an all-payer claims data base.                                                               
She  said that  care models,  health care  delivery systems,  and                                                               
primary  care were  evolving, so  that workforce  development had                                                               
become a high priority.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HIGGINS expressed  the need for a model  to encourage local                                                               
youth into the health care delivery system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:21:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked to clarify  that the community mental                                                               
health aides  could not get  paid under Medicaid  provisions, and                                                               
if so, was there any resolution pending.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  replied that the  commission had not  been involved                                                               
with this.  She offered her  belief that one of the more advanced                                                               
levels  of behavioral  health aides  was being  reimbursed.   She                                                               
offered to follow up and report back to the committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:22:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HIGGINS  said that  Medicaid  reimbursement  was based  on                                                               
training, and that more training was necessary for these aides.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:23:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON   directed  attention  to  slide   33,  "Update  on                                                               
Affordable Care Act," and said  that, although the commission was                                                               
not prepared to evaluate the  policies of the federal program, it                                                               
was   necessary   to   understand   the   implications   of   its                                                               
implementation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON   concluded  with  slide  34,   "Next  Steps,"  and                                                               
established  that  the commission  plans  for  2013 included  the                                                               
continuance of  study for  the current  health care  delivery and                                                               
finance system.   She  declared that  there would  be a  focus on                                                               
health insurance,  cost and cost drivers,  health care accounting                                                               
and pricing,  hospital readmission rates, and  oral health status                                                               
in Alaska.  She stated that  the commission would delve deeper on                                                               
price and transparency through legislation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ERICKSON,  in  response  to Chair  Higgins,  said  that  the                                                               
commission had  not done  a detailed  analysis of  the Affordable                                                               
Care and Patient Protection Act,  as the commission had only been                                                               
established shortly  after the act  was passed.  She  stated that                                                               
the commission  had hired  the Institute  of Social  and Economic                                                               
Research  (ISER) for  a high  level impact  analysis of  the act.                                                               
She  noted that  Department  of Health  and  Social Services  was                                                               
conducting a more detailed, more  current analysis.  She affirmed                                                               
that the  commission had done  a "high level summary  overview of                                                               
the different  provisions in  the act," which  was included  as a                                                               
narrative  description  of  the  major  components  in  its  2010                                                               
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HIGGINS asked  if Ms. Erickson would return  and present an                                                               
overview of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:29:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON referred to page  8 of the "Core Strategies                                                               
&  Policy Recommendations,"  [Included in  members' packets]  and                                                               
asked about  the "Focus  on Prevention."   Noting that  there was                                                               
one  recommendation  from  2009, and  four  recommendations  from                                                               
2011,  he asked  if  there would  be  more recommendations  going                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.   ERICKSON    replied   that   all   of    the   commission's                                                               
recommendations were still considered  current, although some had                                                               
been  implemented.   She explained  that this  current commission                                                               
had been established in statute, and  had voted to adopt the 2009                                                               
recommendations  of the  previously  appointed  commission.   She                                                               
pointed  out   that  each  of  these   recommendations  could  be                                                               
referenced in the annual report of the same date.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:31:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked to clarify  that there had  not been                                                               
any Focus on Prevention recommendations in 2012.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON replied "that's correct."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:32:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services   Standing  Committee  meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 4:32 p.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Alaska Health Care Commission.pdf HHSS 2/28/2013 3:00:00 PM
Alaska Health Care Commission
H HSS 02-28-13 FINAL.pdf HHSS 2/28/2013 3:00:00 PM
Alaska Health Care Commission
HC Commission Strategies & Recommendations thru 2012.pdf HHSS 2/28/2013 3:00:00 PM
Alaska Health Care Commission